Lyon, Away, CL, 4/11 19:45, Pre & in game discussion

Matt-CM · #1 1-11-09, 08:35

LYON V LIVERPOOL
Wednesday 4 November 2009 19:45

Liverpool return to Champions League action on Wednesday in a mouth-watering clash with Lyon at the Stade de Gerland.

The Reds will be aiming for victory having only managed to amass three points from their opening three fixtures in the competition.

But Lyon's victory at Anfield proved they will provide a stern test for Rafa Benitez and his charges, and Claude Puel's men have collected maximum points so far in the competition.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/match/next/

That late goal at Anfield has made it essential we get something from this match and preferably that something is a win. Given our current injury woes our medical team may have as big an impact on this result as the players.

khirano · #2 1-11-09, 08:46

We have to win all the remaining games in the CL and
Lyon away is certainly the toughest but not impossible.
Realistically they have already been qualified for the kock out stage.
They just beat their neighbours and fiercest rivals Saint Etienne yesterday in the league.
so they may now sit back relaxing and it will give us space.

in any case their fans have been planning to give a nice welcome to travelling supporters and the team
to give us back the friendly treatments they recieved before, during and after the game at Anfield

lsarpong · #3 1-11-09, 09:30

well if the man u game was the biggest of the season, this tops that one again, lose or draw then its millions in champs league money gone, that the american idiots budgeted for, in their debt payments.
It is a game we can win for sure, then birmingham at home afterwards which we should also win, after that who knows , rafa is now in that zone where one defeat and calls for his head are deafning

MichaelTheKillerOwen · #4 1-11-09, 09:48

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Originally Posted by lsarpong

well if the man u game was the biggest of the season, this tops that one again, lose or draw then its millions in champs league money gone, that the american idiots budgeted for, in their debt payments.
It is a game we can win for sure, then birmingham at home afterwards which we should also win, after that who knows , rafa is now in that zone where one defeat and calls for his head are deafning

mmmm we should of beaten fulham but we didnt.......

MPrakash · #5 1-11-09, 10:49

Needless to say this is a must-win game for Liverpool .... how many times have said this of Liverpool this season! Lyon are tough customers, and with Liverpool down on confidence, this match is going to be even tougher. It is a situation where the Red players would be short on belief, and the only way to counter this in France, is to start the game with a very high tempo and pin the French team for long-periods in teh first half .... hopefully nick a goal or two in the process.

A loss would certainly put Liverpool out of the running despite what others may say, and the Europa Cup will be the next target.

Well, this is an eagerly awaited game - and another performance ala ManUtd is needed from the Reds!

ONDEFENCE · #6 1-11-09, 11:00

do your stuff guys

KopWaa · #7 1-11-09, 11:10

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Originally Posted by ONDEFENCE

do your stuff guys

everything is on the line here Its the Point of no return in France on wed nyt,They say when Rafa needs a win most he always gets it but depends on availability,Need everyone returning thats been unwell with a virus then i'm confident,Is it one hurdle to much I simply don't know.COME ON REDMEN!

fernandothelegend · #8 1-11-09, 11:33

Doesn't look like johnson or gerrard will make it which is a blow. Really hope riera gets fit soon. If kelly is fit i would play him as he is better defensively than degen.

Reina

Kelly-carra-agger-aurelio

Benny-lucas-masch-dossena

kuyt-torres

Cmon you reds

LordJamieOfCarragher · #9 1-11-09, 11:41

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Originally Posted by fernandothelegend

Doesn't look like johnson or gerrard will make it which is a blow. Really hope riera gets fit soon. If kelly is fit i would play him as he is better defensively than degen.

Reina

Kelly-carra-agger-aurelio

Benny-lucas-masch-dossena

kuyt-torres

Cmon you reds

Degen isn't in our CL squad anyway.

Might have to be Carra at right back, or Kuyt?!??!

KopWaa · #10 1-11-09, 11:43

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Originally Posted by fernandothelegend

Doesn't look like johnson or gerrard will make it which is a blow. Really hope riera gets fit soon. If kelly is fit i would play him as he is better defensively than degen.

Reina

Kelly-carra-agger-aurelio

Benny-lucas-masch-dossena

kuyt-torres

Cmon you reds

Gonna wait till i try guess team with illness's rampant at the moment,Benilyn is what our squad needs most it seems!?

fernandothelegend · #11 1-11-09, 11:44

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Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher

Degen isn't in our CL squad anyway.

Might have to be Carra at right back, or Kuyt?!??!

If kelly is not fit then it would have to be carra.

LordJamieOfCarragher · #12 1-11-09, 11:50

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Originally Posted by KopWaa

Benilyn is what our squad needs most it seems!?

I've seen some bad spellings of Yossi's surname but that is the worst yet!

KopWaa · #13 1-11-09, 11:52

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Originally Posted by LordJamieOfCarragher

I've seen some bad spellings of Yossi's surname but that is the worst yet!

Soothing though isn't it

sloveniankopite · #14 1-11-09, 12:07

Reina
Kelly - Carragher - Agger - Aurelio
Mascherano - Lucas
Kuyt - Benayoun - Dossena
Torres

Subs: Cavalieri, Skrtel, Insua, Aquilani, Spearing, Babel, NGog.

Fingers crossed that at least some of the injured/ill players make it back. I'd prefer Kelly to start at RB is he's fit, don't want to see Carra there

. Aurelio at LB at the expense of Insua, who has been bad in our last few matches and is suffering a dip in form. Aurelio is better defensively and his crossing and deadball delivery is second to none. The CM to be unchanged, sub Aquilani in around the 60th minute mark. Kuyt on the right, let's hope he'll do better than yesterday, Benayoun behind Torres in his favourite position and Dossena on the left, if he's fit enough to start as he offers good width and good crosses to the squad. Or if Riera is fit, he should start. I've checked the injuries and suspensions tracker on the beta site now and on 19th Oct it said that he's going to be out for another 1-2 weeks, so in theory he could be ready just in time for this clash.

CONCENTRATE REDMEN FFS!

ArchieC · #15 1-11-09, 14:08

Put it this way, We Lose We're Out!

But we will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FIRE UP REDMEN!!!!

-Higgy- · #16 1-11-09, 14:32

Score first.

domino · #17 1-11-09, 17:02

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Originally Posted by fernandothelegend

Doesn't look like johnson or gerrard will make it which is a blow. Really hope riera gets fit soon. If kelly is fit i would play him as he is better defensively than degen.
Reina

Kelly-carra-agger-aurelio

Benny-lucas-masch-dossena

kuyt-torres

Cmon you reds

Degen is not in the Champions league squad......

EDIT - bit late

red6 · #18 1-11-09, 17:11

Someone please explain to me why we have just given Stephen Darby a new contract He is 21 year old has been at Anfield for years progressing through the ranks captaining the club at Youth & Reserve level. Played most of his career at Right Back but equally happy to play anywhere along the back four. Lad must have been disappointed to see Martin Kelly come into side against Lyon, even though he is a couple of years his junior. How must he have felt seeing that joke of a footballer Degan picked in front of him at Arsenal & then at Fulham. If Stephen isnt good enough why not dump him like Adam Hammill or Paul Anderson.
Would love to hear Rafa's thoughts then again " we were controlling the situation and creating chances........................................... ."

-Higgy- · #19 1-11-09, 17:21

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Originally Posted by red6

Someone please explain to me why we have just given Stephen Darby a new contract He is 21 year old has been at Anfield for years progressing through the ranks captaining the club at Youth & Reserve level. Played most of his career at Right Back but equally happy to play anywhere along the back four. Lad must have been disappointed to see Martin Kelly come into side against Lyon, even though he is a couple of years his junior. How must he have felt seeing that joke of a footballer Degan picked in front of him at Arsenal & then at Fulham. If Stephen isnt good enough why not dump him like Adam Hammill or Paul Anderson.

Because he helps fill the quota.

liverpoolforme · #20 1-11-09, 17:41

think we will go for-

reina

insua
kelly if fit/carra
agger
skrtel/carra

masch
lucas
yossi
aurelio

kuyt
torres

Andyfagan · #21 1-11-09, 17:49

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Originally Posted by liverpoolforme

think we will go for-

reina

insua
kelly if fit/carra
agger
skrtel/carra

masch
lucas
yossi
aurelio

kuyt
torres

This please.

Will Johnson definitely be out?

christhered · #22 1-11-09, 17:55

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Originally Posted by liverpoolforme

think we will go for-

reina

insua
kelly if fit/carra
agger
skrtel/carra

masch
lucas
yossi
aurelio

kuyt
torres

Kuyt shouldnt be allowed anywhere near the first team.

Andyfagan · #23 1-11-09, 18:04

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Originally Posted by christhered

Kuyt shouldnt be allowed anywhere near the first team.

On form this is probably true.

Unfortunately, who would we bring in to replace him?

christhered · #24 1-11-09, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Andyfagan

On form this is probably true.

Unfortunately, who would we bring in to replace him?

I dont know to be honest mate, I would partner N'Gog up with Fernando. If David is out perhaps Babel on the right, Benny off Torres.

With Kuyt you just cant count on him creating or scoring any type of chance at the moment.

MickeyLove · #25 1-11-09, 18:21

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Originally Posted by christhered

I dont know to be honest mate, I would partner N'Gog up with Fernando. If David is out perhaps Babel on the right, Benny off Torres.

With Kuyt you just cant count on him creating or scoring any type of chance at the moment.

If we are going on form there is no way Babel should be anywhere near the first team either.

Andyfagan · #26 1-11-09, 18:23

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Originally Posted by christhered

I dont know to be honest mate, I would partner N'Gog up with Fernando. If David is out perhaps Babel on the right, Benny off Torres.

With Kuyt you just cant count on him creating or scoring any type of chance at the moment.

Honestly, I'd have Kuyt in my team over Babel any day of the week.

Babel's got to be one of the worst players we've had in the last 5 years.

fernandothelegend · #27 1-11-09, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Andyfagan

Honestly, I'd have Kuyt in my team over Babel any day of the week.

Babel's got to be one of the worst players we've had in the last 5 years.

True the only thing i'd consider if fit is kelly right back and johnson right mid.

calandkarl · #28 1-11-09, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Andyfagan

Honestly, I'd have Kuyt in my team over Babel any day of the week.

Babel's got to be one of the worst players we've had in the last 5 years.

100% right on Babel , but our worst player in the last 5 years award goes to...Voronin, hands down.

hard to know what the team will be Wendesday as we have sick players as well as injured, would have been nice to have Aquillani Available for this one.

Reina

Johnson (hopefully)
Carragher
Agger (hopefully)
Insua

Kuyt
Mascherano
Lucas
Benyoun

Ngog
Torres

... we need to go 442 for the win, our options are limited formation wise due to the injures, two quick pacy strikers will throw lyon as they will expect Torres on his own up front. On papaer this team should do it, fingers crossed then.

christhered · #29 1-11-09, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Andyfagan

Honestly, I'd have Kuyt in my team over Babel any day of the week.

Babel's got to be one of the worst players we've had in the last 5 years.

I feel the same, but we may aswell try and utilise him somehow.
We would be lucky to get £5 million for now, and only then that would probably be one of the Dutch clubs or perhaps a middle of the table team in Spain, that would be entirely pointless thou, unless of course we do have £10-12 million for the winter transfer window and could be added to that.

Andyfagan · #30 1-11-09, 18:36

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Originally Posted by christhered

I feel the same, but we may aswell try and utilise him somehow.
We would be lucky to get £5 million for now, and only then that would probably be one of the Dutch clubs or perhaps a middle of the table team in Spain, that would be entirely pointless thou, unless of course we do have £10-12 million for the winter transfer window and could be added to that.

I'd flog Babel and Dossena and hope for £8m between them. That could get us a half decent squaddie somewhere.